Wednesday 9 March 2011

Fatbike Preparation for Beach Riding...



A lot of folk have asked me how i keep my Pugsley rolling through all the salt water whilst beachriding and how parts haven't seized and it rotted in half...



With a bit preparation a bike can be used in sand and salt water without coming to too much grief...here's what i have done to keep things working and what i have found works, and doesn't work in over 3500 miles riding the Pugsley mostly along the coast...

Frameset;
For 99% of fatbike owners here in the UK the Surly Pugsley is the easiest and cheapest choice of fatbike frameset to obtain, and now this year a complete build Pugsley bike is available for around £1500 which is good value,
A few other manufacturers fatbikes have been imported over here by folk incuding bikes/frames from Sandman, Salsa, and 907,
Manufacturers like Speedway cycles `Fatback` and Chain Reaction Cycles Alaska`s 9zero7,Salsa and Sandman offer `rust free` frames in Alloy and Ti which are more ideal than the Pugsleys 4130 cro-mo steel for beach riding and salt water exposure but with postage to the UK and import tax to pay they are a more costly option...

So The pugsley fits the bill on the cost and availability here in Europe, if you use it on the beach it will get surface rust, what ever you do to prevent this it is unavoidable...







But if you bought a fatbike to polish and nurture then you have bought the wrong bike for the wrong reasons,
Coating the inside with `frame proofing` or as i used a car wax spray under shield will help prevent the frame rusting away from the inside out...

Drive chain/gears;
While some frames now use a 170mm wide rear hub (and 135mm front hub & fork) for an inline wheelset (allowing 29er wheels to also be used),
The Pugsley and the Alaskan 907 use the 1st generation `offset` wheels as 1st used by Wildfire designs fatbikes, using a regular 135mm rear hub allows the most choice of gears set up- single speed, cassette and mech or internal gear hub...



Single speed is the obvious choice for simplicity and reliability but gears open up a lot more terrain possible to cover-from low gears in soft deep sand in dunes...



To flat out in top gear down a rock hard beach with a howling tail wind...



I'm 50/50 on the choice of mech gears or internal gearhub options, I ride an 8 speed Shimano Alfine internal gearhub and do like the clean uncluttered `mech free` chainline and it is a lot quieter when covered in wet sand...



The Pugsley also comes with a 135 offset fork allowing a rear singlespeed hub to run up front-giving swappable wheels in the event of a mech failure or single speed gear options (the small cog is because i lost a spacer!)...



But for me i like the possible swap to single speed if the gearhub fails- the Alfine hubs have only been used for a year or two offroad and in sand so long term reliability is untested-but so far so good,
Mechs and Cassette gives a bigger gear range and this is of course a bonus...
If you run a regular cassette then instead of running the free hub/cassette interface dry- cover it with coppergrease, i had a SLX cassette seize onto a Hope freehub,it destroyed the freehub trying to remove it, (£57 to replace)
My front SS hub has seized spacers on it but luckily the sprocket is in line when i swapped it onto the back to check alignment...

If you go for an Alfine 8 or 11 speed you will have to fit really low gears if you want to ride really soft sand, spinning out on the road with a tailwind is unavoidable here but its not what the bike is for anyway,
I run a 24tooth steel hub sprocket with 32tooth Surly stainless front chainring with a rustproof BMX pitch chain for a bomber set up...



Reliability and strenght being priority in my builds...


Chains and chain lubes;
Probably the most asked about thing after Tyres,
Rustproof chains are available in BMX,8 and 9 speed sizes and range from cheap (3 for £24) KMC chains to more expensive stainless chains...



Before fitting you have to totally degrease the chain for obvious reasons then once dried lube with a good dry lube. I have found the wax lubes best, i have been using `Squirt` chainlube for a couple of years but the large bottles are unavailable this now in the UK so been using `Rock 'n' Roll Absolute Dry` lube as my local Edinburgh shop `The Bike Chain` stocks it (and Pugsley`s!).
You don't need to degrease the chain after a beachride,just spray your bike cleaner over the bike,hose down then dry the chain (i use an airline) and add more lube,
If your on a mega big day out take an old eye drop bottle full of dry lube to top up the chain if your riding a lot of water or through inlets...

Brakes;
There seems to be mostly one choice made of Disc Brakes by most fatbikers for beachriding- Avid BB7 Mechanical Disk brakes, cable operated and low maintenance gives hassle free reliability even in exposure to salt water, also the pads can be wound away from the disc reducing grinding of wet sand, `stop on a dime` brakes arn`t needed for beachriding and BB7`s are ideal...

Some tips to setting them up;
Take the outer cable end caps and pack them with grease.
I know cables are to be run dry inside the teflon lined outer cable but coat the whole inner cable with grease as you thread it through the outer on the bike.
You wont get sticking cables on gears or brakes...
Coat the caliper pistons if cable brakes with no rubber seals in Coppergrease like you would a car or motorcycle before fitting the pads to prevent them seizing to the pistons.

Bottom Bracket,Headset & wheel bearings;
These really have to be double sealed, Most Head sets are as well as Wheel bearings,
I cant comment on reliability of External `outboard` BB bearings though i did have a Truvantiv Giga DH BB and though cheap at £40 was shot after 400 miles...
i use a Phil Wood 100mm BB imported from the USA which uses SKS sealed bearings, it is a work of engineering art, should be at around £150!...



However i got 1500 miles out the 1st set of bearings and the second have about that now and still no play, replacement SKS bearings were £14 the pair and were pressed off/on using sockets and a vice...



Phil Wood supplies thread lock for the retainer cups but i could hardly shift them after 1500 miles of riding so they went back in with coppergrease and have never worked loose....

All the sealed bearings on the bike have been opened up,degreased and then repacked with `Wurth` Graphite grease, or you could use a zinc grease,
Park tools do such a grease, so far so good...



The idea behind this grease is if it is washed out there should be enough graphite left to lube the bearing and prevent heat seizure...
Zinc grease resist`s corrosion from salt water.

Tyres and Tubes;

it seems Surlys recommended tyre set up of there original `Endomorph` rear and the new `Larry` tyre up front seems the best set up...


I fitted Larry tyres front and rear after reading about better rear grip on natural trails etc, here is a Endomorph tyre (old & new) and you can see the difference in tread design to the Larry...



But while the larry cuts into the ground (as a front tyre should) the Endomorph spreads its footprint better so is better suited on the rear...



I ride with Continental 2.5 Down Hill tubes which are a lot lighter and i can remove the Scraeder valves and add a squirt of `Stans Tubeless Juice` which seals thorn punctures from the Roadside Hawthorn Hedgerows we have here in our County,
Rubber rim tape will perish in time with the salt water so i have cloth rim tape fitted, Spoke nipples so far haven`t seized being brass.
Ideal tyre pressures?, anything from 12- 5 PSI with 1 or 2 PSI more in the rear,2 low and you may feel your front tyre hammer into rocks but i have never pinch flatted a fat tyre yet...Dice caps are optional!...



Pedals;
Flat or clipped in is a personal choice, But again need to be sealed bearing.
I can recommend Time Atac`s for lasting...



And DMR V12s, for both i copper greased the spindles and both makes have been fine, i just use flats now as prefer the choice of footwear for walking over exposed slippy rocks at lowtide...Hip Flask is optional!...



Staying dry;
various mudguard's from crud catchers to a cheap & light rear 26" MTB rear rack help keep cold seawater spray off you thrown up by the huge tyres, not much fun on a cool day riding with a cold tailwind and wet backside...




The rubber O rings on crud catchers will perish and fail but cable ties will rub through the frame paint, Cycra Gaurds used a thick rubber fixing strap which so far have been fine and not perished...

Keeping it all together;
As you can now guess Coppergrease is the secret! for anything threaded and metal to metal,
cut down a 1/2" paintbrush and leave inside the tin, its ideal to cover stuff without covering yourself...


Coat every single thread and bare area like inside the BB shell, Fork Steer tube, stem spacers, handlebar,lever,shifter clamps, seatpost, seatclamp, nothing should loosen off after the bike has been exposed to salt water,
washing the bike after is a normal affair-spray down with hose, spray on bike cleaner,hose off, dry chain with cloth and airline,lube chain-job done...

How Long do Parts last?;
3000 + miles out Surly Tyres make the £85 each outlay seem not to bad...
Brake and Gear cables-as a normal bike,once the outers split,1-2 years,
Brake pads- sintered last a lot longer without any noticeable disc wear, I'm trying out a pair of Superstar sintered pads which at £8 ( 4 for £24) seem to work just as good as £18 Avid pads, if the life of them is decent then they are a bit of a bargain, as are there discs at £8 each!, also tempted to try there flat pedals as a friend has them and recommends there reliability...

A lot of folk say they would love to get a fatbike but cant afford one as well as a MTB, That's fair enough,its a matter of choice, i don't own a newish full suspension bike anymore, and i don't miss the upkeep of owning one either,
Before this bike i had a Santa Cruz Heckler full suspension `do it all bike` as my main `weekend warrior` bike, a great bike with simple mechanical (single pivot linkage) and specced with XT and Hope parts, mostly ridden at Trail Centres it was a great bike and a lot of fun...But running costs of drive chains,brake pads,tyres then suspension servicing mounted up, not the cheapest pastime when you factor petrol to travel and parking,cafe food etc...
The Pugsley is cheap as chips to run once bought- 1 set of tyres in 3500 miles?, 3 chains on the mech gears then 2 so far on the hub gear,2 sets brake pads F&R per year and that's about it,
Though of course i live 4 miles from the coast and having access to around 45 miles of pugsley perfect coastline it was a no brainer switch in bike and to do beachriding for all year round fun,causing less trail damage too in wintertime,
I never ride normal trails on my MTB alone now, only when out with friends, always it is the sandy coast trails and beach i head to...
never looked back...

10 comments:

  1. Good tips coastkid. I don't have the salt water to worry about in my area, but I do put a coat of car wax on my Fisher throughout the year to help with corrosion and wear. Seems to work very well as I've had that ride for 8 yrs or so with no problems.

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  2. Great post....I have often wondered how you stopped the Pugsley turning into a pile of rust...you have answered all my questions..Thanks

    -Trevor

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  3. Nice post Bruce!! You truly ride in some challenging conditions. A far cry from the conditions I ride in.
    I find it totally interesting to see how people deal their unique conditions.
    Peace

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  4. Nnnng..... {as I stagger away}

    I can't believe I enjoyed that post - but I did.

    I need to go and lie down in a darkened room!!!

    lol

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  5. Al, watch out you may become a bike geek to! -:)

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  6. Good article. Your conditions seem a lot worse than what I ride in.

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  7. Very good information. I'll put some to good use. My FatBack sees a lot of grit, grime, and road salt in Iowa winters. Interesting your Endo in the rear, I agree, seems people are starting to go Larry front and rear, your tread picture tells the real deal. Thanks.

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  8. Hmm, very interesting bro. I presume a lot of that sound advice would apply to the cyclocross bike I will be buying soon! Nice post bro!!

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  9. Hi big bro...disc brake CX on my wish list too...yeah! me on drop bars!

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  10. You are a wonderful bike-daddy!

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